KATE: No [pause] for Juliet. If I hadn't come after you on the sub, then you two would've left and she would've never died.
SAWYER: It's not your fault she's dead. It's mine. [eye welling with tears] She was sittin' right there, right where you are now, tryin' to leave this place. And I convinced her to stay. I made her stay on this island [crying] 'cause I didn't want to be alone. [deep breath] You understand that, right?
[Sawyer and Kate just look at each other.]
SAWYER: But, uh, [pause] but I think some of use are meant to be alone.
[Sawyer is rubbing a diamond ring with his fingers.]
SAWYER: I was gonna ask her to marry me.
[Kate looks away. She was not expecting this from Sawyer. Still crying, Sawyer stands up on the pier and throws the ring into the water as Kate watches.]
SAWYER: You can probably make it back to the Temple by nightfall.[Sawyer walks back along the pier. Kate begins to cry.]
Thanks to Lostpedia for the transcript. Wow, volatile scene. Sawyer's character is clearly grieving, feeling guilty and responsible for Juliet's death, and wants to be alone in his grief. We can understand what James is feeling.
Kate, on the other hand, is looking surprised, or upset, or beleaguered, or confused, or bewildered, or jealous, or disconcerted, or some combination of these emotions. Then she starts crying. What is she crying about? Did she just lose the person she spent 3 years in a committed relationship with? Does she actually want Sawyer now, of all times, and is upset he doesn't want her anymore? Is she sorry she didn't take Sawyer up on his offer he made before she left the Island? Is she jealous of Juliet, again? Does she realize Sawyer is now James, a person she really doesn't know? Is she upset James could actually move on with Juliet? Is she sorry Juliet is dead? Does she feel responsible for Juliet's death? Does she feel responsible for James grief? Is it fair to say she is feeling a combination of these or only one or two of these emotions? If she truly is a complex character, maybe it is fair to say she is feeling all these things? I don't want to need an advance degree in Abnormal Psychology to understand a tv character. Characters like this aren't complex, they are just indiscernible, and ultimately frustrating, to the viewer and easy for a lazy writer to assign any emotion to. TPTB, please give us a female character we can understand and let the character live. We don't want cryptic characters for six seasons. Kill off those characters after a season or two.
Hit the nail on the head again here. She's harder to read than a crying baby most times-they're either hungry, wet, tired or bored. Not her, no, with Kate you can associate nearly every emotion under the book to her and have a good chance of being right. I guess that may be why Emo-less kate and Emo-full jack could never make it work, though I can't see how any man could make it work with a trainwreck like her.
ReplyDeleteShe's upset about something but what? She's conflicted about something but why? She's contemplating a decision but will she ever actually make one? These are the real burning questions of lost haha.
Thanks kally, maybe that is why Kate continues to be drawn to Jack, opposites attract. I like Emo-less Kate and Emo-ful Jack, opposites. At least with Jack, he is consistent and cries a lot over really almost anything. His crowning achievement being, at least in my book, is his own phone call to David in the sideways world.
ReplyDeleteBut Kate, ugh, look at that first picture. I kept going back to it and the different adjectives kept coming at me. Imo, this is the cause of most of the conflicts with the shippers. I would like to know if it is intentional, or if TPTB just got lucky. And in all fairness, who is to say which group is correct? I know my preference, but would never claim endgame cause of Kate and her "reactions" to anything or anyone.
Argh, that scene. Good thing you chose that one out of the other 9,498 ambiguous ones. I have a lot to say about the acting of this character, but since you put that disclaimer in the banner, I'll stay away from this topic.
ReplyDeleteIn trying to decipher the dock scene - because "why is she crying?" instantly became as popular a question as "who will she choose?" - a clue got my attention. At one point, she's crying with her mouth slightly open, head a bit tilted back.
This isn't Abnormal Psychology, though (still LOVE that term! ^-^) When is someone ever crying with an open mouth and a tilted head? That's right, when the suffering inside is that potent, when the stomach is being grasped by the hand of the events and twisted, and twisted again, and it hurts all over, so much so that you want to die.
What on earth can create such suffering? Someone else's pain, like Sawyer's pain? Heck no, you can have pain for someone else, but you don't feel it through your organs. So it was self-suffering, hence my interpretation that she wanted Sawyer and felt utterly rejected by him.
But you see, either it doesn't make sense that Kate would want Sawyer now, in which case the acting was way off. Or it is indeed what she wanted, and then the writing of this character took a new low, if that was ever possible.
Ab Aeterno and Happily Ever After have hidden reasons for them to be the best episodes so far this year. :D
France, that is an astute observation. What more can I say? Think you've hit the proverbial nail on the head.
ReplyDeleteAs far as a new low for Kate's character, anything she does now is just fuel for the fire anyway. Her character can't sink any lower.